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PostSubject: Re: Pera ang maghanap buhay para sayo   Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:46 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Pera ang maghanap buhay para sayo   Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:51 pm

na aalala ko tuloy nung na "kidnap" ako ng mga taga vision at legacy corp
sabi nila kailangan ko lang daw mag down ng 9k at mag recruit at kaya daw mabawi ito sa isang buwan
tinanong ko din kung may kikitain sila sa pag recruit sakin "oo" naman ang sagot
kaya lang nung sinabi ko wala ako 9k eh pwede peram muna tapos bayaran ko nalang pag kumita na .....abay ayaw ako pa utangin
ano un wala syang tiwala na kikita ako?

ako risk taker bali ganito sir
pwede ba maka hiram ng $100 or $50 para makapag simula ako
at lahat ng kikitain ko sa simula eh para bayaran ka
kaso wala akong lalabas na cash
parang gumawa ka lang ng 2nd account mo kung nag kataon pwepwede ba un?
kung may tiwala kang kikita ako sa mapapahiram mo sakin edi worth the try na pahiramin ako ng wala akong nilalabas na cash?
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PostSubject: Re: Pera ang maghanap buhay para sayo   Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:02 pm

^ +1000 Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Pera ang maghanap buhay para sayo   Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:14 pm

baka walang tiwala sayo si vision at legacy corp..
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PostSubject: Re: Pera ang maghanap buhay para sayo   Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:11 pm

assuming nga na wala silang tiwala sakin
bat pa sila mag aaksaya ng panahon mag paliwanag pano tumatakbo ung kumpanya nila kung sa una palang eh wala na silang tiwala na mapapalago ko kumpanya nila
sensya boss kung nakaka offend ah



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baka walang tiwala sayo si vision at legacy corp..
so boss kayo may tiwala ba kayo sakin?
liez...pwede din pronounce as lies.. as in kasinungalingan..pag kakatiwalaan mo ba ko boss?
ako ung taong walang cellphone at walang landline hindi ako basta basta na cocontact
gusto ko kumita kaso wala akong kapital pwede mo ba ako matulungan?
edi risk taking na din pag tinulungan mo ko sa pag pundar ng kapital ko

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PostSubject: Re: Pera ang maghanap buhay para sayo   Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:05 pm

Hehehe, ako rin pwede pautang?
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PostSubject: Re: Pera ang maghanap buhay para sayo   Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:13 pm

kung pwede nga lang noisy ung puhunan eh ehehehhee
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PostSubject: Re: Pera ang maghanap buhay para sayo   Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:16 am

ako din pautang......
kailangan ko ng pambii ng HS33
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PostSubject: Re: Pera ang maghanap buhay para sayo   Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:19 am

Liez wrote:
na aalala ko tuloy nung na "kidnap" ako ng mga taga vision at legacy corp
sabi nila kailangan ko lang daw mag down ng 9k at mag recruit at kaya daw mabawi ito sa isang buwan
tinanong ko din kung may kikitain sila sa pag recruit sakin "oo" naman ang sagot
kaya lang nung sinabi ko wala ako 9k eh pwede peram muna tapos bayaran ko nalang pag kumita na .....abay ayaw ako pa utangin
ano un wala syang tiwala na kikita ako?

ako risk taker bali ganito sir
pwede ba maka hiram ng $100 or $50 para makapag simula ako
at lahat ng kikitain ko sa simula eh para bayaran ka
kaso wala akong lalabas na cash
parang gumawa ka lang ng 2nd account mo kung nag kataon pwepwede ba un?
kung may tiwala kang kikita ako sa mapapahiram mo sakin edi worth the try na pahiramin ako ng wala akong nilalabas na cash?


Ha.ha.ha.ha...

Wala sa prinsipyo ng mga MLM ang magpautang sa downlines! Kasi, pag pinautang daw nila, hindi mo daw paghihirapan ang mag recruit kasi hindi mo "hard earned cash" ung ginamit mo...At least yan ang narinig kong dahilan nung meron din kumukumbinsi sa akin... Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Pera ang maghanap buhay para sayo   Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:28 pm

Mas ok sana to kung direct sa bank account mo yung earnings mo kahit $ 0.40 pa yan. Parang retailing lang mamuhunan ka, benta mo, hawak mo na kita, dagdag puhunan na ulit.

Medyo nakaka gulat lang yung interest earned, kung ganyan lang kikitain ko di nako mag retailing at tiangge. Di nako pag papagod bumili ng paninda ko.

Sa % earned na napaka laki, san nila na invest yung pera? siguro nga malaki yung earning dahil non-taxed at walang commission na humahawak, pero mas lalo nakaka takot dahil walang batas na mag puprotekta sa investor.

Di ako against sa TS: pero sa sistema ng mga money back investment pyramiding, marami lalo nag hirap, pamilyang nasira, mag kakaybigan nag away-away dahil maraming umasa. wala naman ibang sisisihin kundi yung nag kumbinsi, pero wala silang kasalanan.

Ang sakin lang di ako kumita ng pera hangat di ko na hahawakan
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PostSubject: Re: Pera ang maghanap buhay para sayo   Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:02 pm

hindi naman po ito sapilitan kung ayaw nyo ehdi wag.. magtanim na lang kayo ng kamote mas maigi pa.

basta ang alam ko ako kumikita sa perang pinaghirapan ko.
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PostSubject: Re: Pera ang maghanap buhay para sayo   Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:22 pm

Wala namang umaaway sayo brad, skeptic lang kami at nagtatanong diyan sa investment na pinasok mo. Marami na rin kasing nadale ng ganiyang mga MLM ventures.
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PostSubject: Re: Pera ang maghanap buhay para sayo   Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:47 pm

Nag post ka ng illegal na ponzi scheme sa isang bike forum, tapos 43bikes pa yun forum kung saan kilalang pranka ang mga members, what kind of reaction where you expecting?
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PostSubject: Re: Pera ang maghanap buhay para sayo   Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:14 pm

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Nag post ka ng illegal na ponzi scheme sa isang bike forum, tapos 43bikes pa yun forum kung saan kilalang pranka ang mga members, what kind of reaction where you expecting?

Ahahahaha Tama nga naman si Fafa PK

At Sir, Business is a Calculated Gamble/Risk I agree. But the fact of the matter is, one can only calculate what you get into if you know all aspects of the venture you are willing to take a risk out of.

One rule in business that iv'e learned not only from my Professors in graduate school, but also from "actual businessmen" who are "core members" of this forum, is that "never take anyone's word at face value". That's why a lot of us are asking specific question about the nature of the business you are purportedly making an income out of.

And getting into a "risky business venture" without actually knowing what and how that business is generating income, is poor business practice. If what you say is true, why is it that SMDC, ALC, LTGC, DMCI and SMC are still hard at work, building and selling what ever their product is to make money, rather that investing their money on JustBeenPaid?

Business is the exchange of goods and service for profit. What services or good or product does JustBeenPaid offers? If they invest the money that is invested to them, where do they? If they revolve the money they recieve, why and what for so as to be able to give their investors a very high rate of return? If they utilize the money for group savings like the way some Filipinos do with "Paluwagan" then clearly it is Illegal.

Sorry Sir TS, No one here is fighting with you, it's just that we want to make it clear to the users of this forum what they are getting into.

TISSUE!!!!! :-) ehehehe
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PostSubject: Re: Pera ang maghanap buhay para sayo   Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:45 pm

kasmott wrote:
PK wrote:
Nag post ka ng illegal na ponzi scheme sa isang bike forum, tapos 43bikes pa yun forum kung saan kilalang pranka ang mga members, what kind of reaction where you expecting?

Ahahahaha Tama nga naman si Fafa PK

At Sir, Business is a Calculated Gamble/Risk I agree. But the fact of the matter is, one can only calculate what you get into if you know all aspects of the venture you are willing to take a risk out of.

One rule in business that iv'e learned not only from my Professors in graduate school, but also from "actual businessmen" who are "core members" of this forum, is that "never take anyone's word at face value". That's why a lot of us are asking specific question about the nature of the business you are purportedly making an income out of.

And getting into a "risky business venture" without actually knowing what and how that business is generating income, is poor business practice. If what you say is true, why is it that SMDC, ALC, LTGC, DMCI and SMC are still hard at work, building and selling what ever their product is to make money, rather that investing their money on JustBeenPaid?

Business is the exchange of goods and service for profit. What services or good or product does JustBeenPaid offers? If they invest the money that is invested to them, where do they? If they revolve the money they recieve, why and what for so as to be able to give their investors a very high rate of return? If they utilize the money for group savings like the way some Filipinos do with "Paluwagan" then clearly it is Illegal.

Sorry Sir TS, No one here is fighting with you, it's just that we want to make it clear to the users of this forum what they are getting into.

TISSUE!!!!! :-) ehehehe

Ay dumudugo ang ilong ko tagos pati sa tenga! Paabot ng tissue kasmott. hahaha
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PostSubject: Re: Pera ang maghanap buhay para sayo   Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:14 am

time is gold

iba ang online earning sa mga offline earning opportunities.
ibat iba ang mga online program. Lahat tayo member lang dito. Nag decide maglabas ng hard earned money natin.Magdecide ka lang. Choice mo pa din. Walang namimilit kung gagaya ka samin. Kung takot ka sa risk, at gusto ng 100% guarantee sa lahat ng bagay. . wag ka na po sumali. hehe! peace

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PostSubject: Re: Pera ang maghanap buhay para sayo   Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:34 pm

bro......
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PostSubject: Re: Pera ang maghanap buhay para sayo   Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:42 pm

yep?
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PostSubject: Re: Pera ang maghanap buhay para sayo   Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:08 pm

ppg wrote:
Mas ok sana to kung direct sa bank account mo yung earnings mo kahit $ 0.40 pa yan. Parang retailing lang mamuhunan ka, benta mo, hawak mo na kita, dagdag puhunan na ulit.

Medyo nakaka gulat lang yung interest earned, kung ganyan lang kikitain ko di nako mag retailing at tiangge. Di nako pag papagod bumili ng paninda ko.

Sa % earned na napaka laki, san nila na invest yung pera? siguro nga malaki yung earning dahil non-taxed at walang commission na humahawak, pero mas lalo nakaka takot dahil walang batas na mag puprotekta sa investor.

Di ako against sa TS: pero sa sistema ng mga money back investment pyramiding, marami lalo nag hirap, pamilyang nasira, mag kakaybigan nag away-away dahil maraming umasa. wala naman ibang sisisihin kundi yung nag kumbinsi, pero wala silang kasalanan.

Ang sakin lang di ako kumita ng pera hangat di ko na hahawakan

correction hindi po ito pyramiding
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PostSubject: Re: Pera ang maghanap buhay para sayo   Mon Jul 23, 2012 5:46 pm

bayolinista wrote:
Wala namang umaaway sayo brad, skeptic lang kami at nagtatanong diyan sa investment na pinasok mo. Marami na rin kasing nadale ng ganiyang mga MLM ventures.

hindi naman po ako nangaaway mga sir, gusto ko lang po maishare ko yung income opportunity na hindi pa nalalaman ng karamihan. kayo na po nagsabi (bakit hindi nalalaman ng mga pinoy) hindi po kce tayo nag eexplore kung ano ang pede natin ikayaman.. kuntento na lang tayo sa 8hrs/day at minimum wage na sahod..

gaya po ng sabi nyo dapat ang business/investment pinag-aaralan bago pasukin.. yun din po ang hangad ko pag-aralan nyo muna bago kayo pumasok.. wala naman pong masama kung pag-aaralan..
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PostSubject: Re: Pera ang maghanap buhay para sayo   Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:40 pm

bali hindi nag accumulate ng interest pag $10 bucks lang?
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PostSubject: Re: Pera ang maghanap buhay para sayo   Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:49 pm

hindi pyramiding...ganon tlaga ito, men are wise enough to look for loopholes and push through thier schemes....kanya kanyang paraan naman eh...hindi ikaw yan TS ...ang tinutukoy ko is yung mismong pinasok mo.... correct me if i'm wrong...
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PostSubject: Re: Pera ang maghanap buhay para sayo   Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:37 am

Nakakapagtaka na ilang ponzi schemers na ang ipinangnak, lumago, lumubog, at (hopefully) nanagot sa mga napinsala nya, marami pa rin di natututo.
Nakakatuwa na simple lang malamang ang sagot bakit:

Dahil napakalaking porsiento ng mga tao sa mundo ang nangagarap na sana kumita ng malaki kahit wag na magpawis, wag na mag-aral ng mga "skills", wag na pasakitin ang ulo. "Easy money" kumbaga. Bangitin mo lang yan, nabubura lahat ng isip ng kahit isang matalinong tao. Minsan, kahit illegal, papasukin ng isang mataas ang moral na tao. Minsan, kahit na konting saliksik lang, madaling malalaman na panloloko ang isang bagay, pinipikitan.

I second yung opinion ni sir twenty... lahat pinaghihirapan. Kahit ang founder ng scheme na yan, alam nya na totoo ito, kaya nga ginamit nya ang talino nya para makagawa ng sistema at makakumbinse ng maraming mabibiktima. Gumagamit sya ng isang dosenang web developers at technicians na kumikita gamit ang kaalaman at sipag nila. And, since he is also risking jail time pag nagkamali sya, kaya gagamit din sya ng mga abogado na yumaman gamit ang kaalaman nila sa batas. Kung ganun kadali kumita ng pera, e di patigilin na lang natin yung webmasters, may-ari ng site hosts, abogado, at kung sino pang empleyado nya.

Alisin mo na sa usapan ang lotto. Sobrang swerte yun. Mas madali pa nga raw na tamaan ka ng kidlat kesa tumama sa lotto.

Brod, kung kumikita ka na... good for you. cash out and start investing sa maayos na pamamaraan. You may or may not know it, but for sure, someone else is or will be losing hard earned money to pay for your easy earned money. Hindi patas na labanan ang tawag dyan.



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PostSubject: Re: Pera ang maghanap buhay para sayo   Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:42 am

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You may or may not know it, but for sure, someone else is or will be losing hard earned money to pay for your easy earned money. Hindi patas na labanan ang tawag dyan.
Exactly. And most ponzi/pyramid founders nowadays almost always hides their M.O. behind some kinds of products or pseudo services.
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PostSubject: Re: Pera ang maghanap buhay para sayo   Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:11 am

To put it simply.

Yun na-invest mo na 600 usd, pinambayad sa mga nauna sa yo.

Saan naman manggagaling yun ibabayad sa iyo? Sa mga bagong myembro syempre.

Sa sitwasyong ito, logically na hindi ito sustainable, aabot sa point na mas marami na yun lumang members kaysa sa bagong members na nag papasok ng pera. Pano na yan?

Ayun, bigla na lang mawawala yan kumpanya na yan, yun owner nyan, magbabakasyon na lang sa Carribean, yun mga members na hindi nakapagwithdraw kaagad at yun hindi pa kumikita, sorry na lang.

You keep on talking about risks in business, well, there are different levels of risks, kaya nga sa example ko, iba yun risk ng backflip kaysa sa risk ng backflip over a 500 foot gap.
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